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ATTORNEY, IN-DEPTH: It's A Lot Of Fun, You're Solving Problems For People Who Desperately Need Help

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Patrick goes in-depth with his story about being an attorney.
He says it's a fun job where he gets to help people who are desperately in need of the services of a lawyer. He shares the challenges of being an older student in law school and he talks about what law school really teaches you. And Patrick compares the similarities between the legal field and software development.

Degree: Law - Software Development
Job Title: Legal Aid Attorney

Job Summary: Lawyers

Job Description

Lawyers advise and represent individuals, businesses, or government agencies on legal issues or disputes. Lawyers, also called attorneys, act as both advocates and advisors. As advocates, they represent one of the parties in criminal and civil trials by presenting evidence and arguing in court to support their client. As advisors, lawyers counsel their clients about their legal rights and obligations and suggest courses of action in business and personal matters. All attorneys research the intent of laws and judicial decisions and apply the laws to the specific circumstances that their clients face.

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Becoming licensed as a lawyer is called being "admitted to the bar" and licensing exams are called "bar exams."

To practice law in any state, a person must be admitted to its bar under rules established by the jurisdiction’s highest court. The requirements vary by individual states and jurisdictions.

Most states require that applicants graduate from an ABA-accredited law school, pass one or more written bar exams, and be found by an admitting board to have the character to represent and advise others. Lawyers who want to practice in more than one state must often take separate bar exams in each state.

Quick Facts

Average salary
Average salary
National Statistic Change Location
$55,000 - $170,000
Projected job growth
Projected Job Growth
10 to 20 percent
Typical schedule
Typical schedule
Full-time, Long hours
Typical workplace
Typical workplace
Military, Indoor, Office
Personal qualities
Personal Qualities
Analytical skills, Problem solving skills, Public speaking ability, Verbal communication skills, Written communication skills, People skills, Detail oriented

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a</span> <span m='16585'>particular</span> <span m='16670'>profession</span> <span m='17280'>that you</span> <span m='17490'>don't</span> <span m='17670'>know</span> <span m='17760'>anything</span> <span m='18170'>about,</span> <span m='18710'>and something</span> <span m='19160'>has</span> <span m='19645'>happened</span> <span m='20130'>to them,</span> <span m='20615'>now</span> <span m='21100'>suddenly</span> <span m='21330'>you</span> <span m='21450'>need</span> <span m='21690'>to</span> <span m='21800'>learn</span> <span m='22040'>about</span> <span m='22380'>that profession.</span> <span m='22865'>If</span> <span m='23350'>it's</span> <span m='23520'>a</span> <span m='23810'>process,</span> <span m='24310'>you</span> <span m='24380'>need</span> <span m='24510'>to</span> <span m='24610'>learn</span> <span m='24820'>about</span> <span m='25030'>that</span> <span m='25190'>process.</span> <span m='25490'>If it's</span> <span m='25790'>an</span> <span m='25950'>industry,</span> <span m='26730'>you need to learn</span> <span m='27040'>about that</span> <span m='27470'>industry.</span> <span m='28370'>So</span> <span m='29980'>that's</span> <span m='30580'>a</span> <span m='30630'>challenge.</span> <span m='31220'>And</span> <span m='31440'>that's</span> <span m='31800'>also,</span> <span m='33840'>the</span> <span m='34080'>fun of</span> <span m='34365'>it</span> <span m='34650'>is that</span> <span m='35083'>it's</span> <span m='35516'>varied.</span> </p><p><span m='36490'>I</span> <span m='36780'>was</span> <span m='37020'>48</span> <span m='37670'>when</span> <span m='38117'>I decided</span> <span m='38564'>to go to</span> <span m='39630'>law</span> <span m='39970'>school.</span> <span m='40980'>So</span> <span m='41190'>the</span> <span m='41290'>biggest</span> <span m='41610'>thing</span> <span m='41780'>was</span> <span m='42300'>get</span> <span m='42620'>permission</span> <span m='43043'>from my wife.</span> <span m='43466'>It's a</span> <span m='43890'>big</span> <span m='44000'>commitment</span> <span m='44330'>to</span> <span m='44660'>go to</span> <span m='44770'>law</span> <span m='44930'>school.</span> <span m='45555'>It's</span> <span m='46480'>three</span> <span m='46700'>years</span> <span m='47040'>of</span> <span m='47170'>intense</span> <span m='47590'>study.</span> <span m='48466'>I had young children</span> <span m='48902'>at the time,</span> <span m='50210'>and</span> <span m='50790'>you</span> <span m='50890'>need</span> <span m='51050'>to</span> <span m='51140'>find</span> <span m='51550'>time.</span> <span m='52520'>And</span> <span m='53030'>when</span> <span m='53340'>you</span> <span m='53440'>are older,</span> <span m='54280'>committing</span> <span m='54670'>that</span> <span m='55060'>amount of</span> <span m='55990'>time</span> <span m='56920'>to study</span> <span m='57385'>law</span> <span m='57850'>is</span> <span m='58315'>difficult</span> <span m='59250'>and</span> <span m='59750'>not</span> <span m='60070'>so</span> <span m='60950'>easily</span> <span m='61510'>achievable</span> <span m='62030'>without</span> <span m='62440'>a</span> <span m='63050'>supporting</span> <span m='63460'>spouse.</span> </p><p><span m='64544'>I think</span> <span m='64819'>become</span> <span m='65000'>an</span> <span m='65310'>attorney,</span> <span m='65349'>maybe,</span> <span m='65780'>is</span> <span m='66420'>hard.</span> <span m='67240'>And it's</span> <span m='67550'>harder</span> <span m='67960'>when</span> <span m='68080'>you're</span> <span m='68200'>older</span> <span m='68550'>because</span> <span m='69520'>there's</span> <span m='69690'>a</span> <span m='69760'>lot</span> <span m='69980'>of</span> <span m='70020'>memorization</span> <span m='70610'>involved.</span> <span m='73740'>And</span> <span m='74224'>we just memorize</span> <span m='74708'>things</span> <span m='75192'>much</span> <span m='75313'>better</span> <span m='75434'>when</span> <span m='75555'>we</span> <span m='75676'>are</span> <span m='76160'>25</span> <span m='76644'>than we do when we are 50.</span> </p><p><span m='77130'>What</span> <span m='77440'>law</span> <span m='77750'>school</span> <span m='78244'>teaches</span> <span m='78738'>you</span> <span m='79726'>is</span> <span m='80220'>how to</span> <span m='80714'>be</span> <span m='81208'>a \"lawyer.\"</span> <span m='82690'>Then,</span> <span m='83678'>after</span> <span m='84172'>you graduate</span> <span m='84666'>from law school,</span> <span m='85654'>you need</span> <span m='86148'>to become</span> <span m='86642'>an</span> <span m='87136'>apprentice</span> <span m='87630'>of</span> <span m='88618'>a lawyer,</span> <span m='89112'>generally.</span> <span m='90594'>Some go</span> <span m='91088'>work for</span> <span m='91582'>a</span> <span m='92076'>judge</span> <span m='92570'>as</span> <span m='93064'>a</span> <span m='93558'>clerk.</span> <span m='95040'>Some work for large</span> <span m='95534'>law firms</span> <span m='96028'>as</span> <span m='96522'>associate</span> <span m='97016'>attorneys.</span> <span m='98004'>Some</span> <span m='98498'>work</span> <span m='98992'>in</span> <span m='99486'>legal</span> <span m='99980'>aid</span> <span m='100474'>agency.</span> <span m='101956'>And</span> <span m='102450'>that's</span> <span m='102944'>how you</span> <span m='103438'>learn</span> <span m='103932'>experience.</span> <span m='104920'>You need</span> <span m='105414'>to be with</span> <span m='105908'>somebody</span> <span m='106402'>who's</span> <span m='106896'>done it.</span> <span m='107884'>And</span> <span m='108378'>whoever</span> <span m='108872'>you</span> <span m='109366'>pick</span> <span m='109860'>as a mentor,</span> <span m='110848'>whatever</span> <span m='111342'>field</span> <span m='111836'>that they're in,</span> <span m='112330'>you end up,</span> <span m='112824'>almost</span> <span m='113318'>by</span> <span m='113812'>default,</span> <span m='114306'>being</span> <span m='115294'>that kind of</span> <span m='115788'>lawyer</span> <span m='116282'>because</span> <span m='117270'>that's the</span> <span m='117764'>experience</span> <span m='118320'>you build on.</span> </p><p><span m='119060'>I've had</span> <span m='119230'>two</span> <span m='119720'>careers.</span> <span m='120984'>And</span> <span m='121371'>they</span> <span m='121760'>are</span> <span m='122140'>similar</span> <span m='122560'>in</span> <span m='122620'>some</span> <span m='122880'>ways,</span> <span m='123110'>and</span> <span m='123230'>different</span> <span m='123640'>in</span> <span m='124050'>other ways. 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