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P3.instances[0].transcript.parse_transcript_data({"transcript":"<p><span m='335'>So</span> <span m='670'>you</span> <span m='850'>make a</span> <span m='1240'>lot of</span> <span m='1330'>engagements</span> <span m='1920'>and</span> <span m='2408'>relationships</span> <span m='2896'>with</span> <span m='3384'>people,</span> <span m='3872'>whether</span> <span m='4360'>it's,</span> <span m='4848'>I guess</span> <span m='5336'>either the mayor,</span> <span m='5824'>or the</span> <span m='6312'>community.</span> <span m='8752'>Or</span> <span m='9250'>the</span> <span m='9580'>family that</span> <span m='9940'>you just</span> <span m='10340'>happen to see</span> <span m='10770'>at the</span> <span m='11220'>park on a</span> <span m='11670'>regular basis.</span> <span m='12718'>So that's</span> <span m='13196'>one of the</span> <span m='13674'>things that</span> <span m='14152'>I really</span> <span m='14630'>enjoy about it.</span> </p><p><span m='16070'>What's</span> <span m='16460'>challenging</span> <span m='16860'>is</span> <span m='17220'>taking something</span> <span m='17500'>you</span> <span m='17780'>see</span> <span m='18268'>continuously,</span> <span m='18756'>and</span> <span m='19244'>presenting</span> <span m='19732'>it in a</span> <span m='20220'>new way,</span> <span m='20708'>getting</span> <span m='21196'>it out there</span> <span m='21684'>so</span> <span m='22172'>that</span> <span m='22660'>you're</span> <span m='23148'>viewing</span> <span m='23636'>audience,</span> <span m='24124'>whoever they</span> <span m='24612'>might be,</span> <span m='25100'>will</span> <span m='25588'>be able to</span> <span m='26076'>see it,</span> <span m='26564'>recognize</span> <span m='27052'>it, get</span> <span m='27540'>something out</span> <span m='28028'>of it.</span> <span m='28516'>And they don't</span> <span m='29004'>feel like they're</span> <span m='29492'>looking</span> <span m='30000'>at the</span> <span m='30050'>same old</span> <span m='30340'>thing</span> <span m='30780'>over and</span> <span m='31279'>over.</span> <span m='32776'>Press</span> <span m='33275'>conferences</span> <span m='33774'>are a big</span> <span m='34273'>deal.</span> </p><p><span m='35271'>You</span> <span m='35770'>photograph a</span> <span m='36269'>lot of them,</span> <span m='37267'>and it</span> <span m='37766'>takes a</span> <span m='38265'>lot to go into</span> <span m='38764'>a press conference</span> <span m='39263'>in a</span> <span m='39762'>building,</span> <span m='40261'>in</span> <span m='40760'>a</span> <span m='41259'>room</span> <span m='41758'>where you</span> <span m='42257'>photograph</span> <span m='42756'>frequently the</span> <span m='43255'>same people over</span> <span m='43754'>and over,</span> <span m='44752'>and come</span> <span m='45251'>up with</span> <span m='45750'>something</span> <span m='46249'>interesting and</span> <span m='46748'>different.</span> <span m='48245'>So,</span> <span m='48744'>tenacity is</span> <span m='49243'>really,</span> <span m='49742'>really important.</span> <span m='55231'>Getting</span> <span m='55730'>into</span> <span m='56229'>photojournalism</span> <span m='56728'>right now</span> <span m='57227'>is</span> <span m='58225'>a little</span> <span m='58724'>more difficult</span> <span m='59223'>than it used</span> <span m='59722'>to be.</span> <span m='60720'>Newspapers,</span> <span m='62217'>as</span> <span m='62716'>newspapers</span> <span m='63215'>in and</span> <span m='63714'>of themselves</span> <span m='64213'>exist,</span> <span m='64712'>are</span> <span m='65211'>going away.</span> </p><p><span m='66708'>They're slowly</span> <span m='67207'>vanishing.</span> <span m='68704'>Big</span> <span m='69270'>cities</span> <span m='69660'>like</span> <span m='69920'>Chicago,</span> <span m='71400'>Detroit,</span> <span m='71890'>New York,</span> <span m='72380'>so</span> <span m='72870'>forth,</span> <span m='73850'>their papers</span> <span m='74340'>are fading</span> <span m='74830'>away,</span> <span m='75320'>and</span> <span m='77280'>most of</span> <span m='77770'>them are in</span> <span m='78260'>bankruptcy</span> <span m='78750'>right now.</span> <span m='79240'>And it's</span> <span m='79730'>been very, very</span> <span m='80220'>difficult.</span> <span m='81690'>The</span> <span m='82180'>onslaught</span> <span m='82670'>of digital</span> <span m='83160'>media in</span> <span m='83650'>the past</span> <span m='84140'>20 years</span> <span m='84630'>is</span> <span m='85120'>just</span> <span m='85610'>really taking</span> <span m='86100'>a toll</span> <span m='86590'>on</span> <span m='87080'>what we</span> <span m='87570'>do with</span> <span m='88060'>journalists.</span> </p><p><span m='91010'>So</span> <span m='91270'>while</span> <span m='91530'>the newspaper</span> <span m='91800'>is going</span> <span m='91930'>away,</span> <span m='92375'>and a lot</span> <span m='92820'>of people</span> <span m='93319'>in the industry</span> <span m='93818'>are just</span> <span m='94317'>going,</span> <span m='94816'>oh, it's</span> <span m='95315'>all community</span> <span m='95814'>journalism,</span> <span m='96313'>and</span> <span m='96812'>people with</span> <span m='97311'>iPhones,</span> <span m='97810'>it's like, well,</span> <span m='98808'>the</span> <span m='99307'>low end,</span> <span m='99806'>crappy stuff</span> <span m='100305'>is going to</span> <span m='100804'>be that.</span> <span m='102310'>But</span> <span m='104291'>that</span> <span m='104782'>doesn't</span> <span m='105273'>[INAUDIBLE]</span> <span m='106255'>there</span> <span m='106750'>isn't still</span> <span m='107190'>a</span> <span m='107475'>need</span> <span m='107760'>for</span> <span m='108228'>intelligent</span> <span m='109164'>to be</span> <span m='109632'>out there</span> <span m='110100'>who have</span> <span m='110568'>a</span> <span m='111040'>sense</span> <span m='111210'>of</span> <span m='111390'>light</span> <span m='111530'>and</span> <span m='111900'>composition,</span> <span m='112714'>and</span> <span m='114046'>the</span> <span m='114490'>intellectual</span> <span m='114640'>means</span> <span m='114920'>to put</span> <span m='115275'>those</span> <span m='115630'>two to</span> <span m='116127'>use,</span> <span m='117121'>and make</span> <span m='117618'>interesting</span> <span m='118115'>photographs.</span> <span m='120600'>The</span> <span m='121097'>way that</span> <span m='121594'>it would have been</span> <span m='122091'>in the past,</span> <span m='122588'>obviously,</span> <span m='123085'>to portray</span> <span m='123582'>that would be</span> <span m='124079'>to</span> <span m='125073'>get it</span> <span m='125570'>into a</span> <span m='126067'>newspaper.</span> </p><p><span m='127061'>But</span> <span m='127558'>now</span> <span m='128055'>the venues</span> <span m='128552'>are</span> <span m='129049'>dramatically</span> <span m='129546'>different,</span> <span m='130043'>you know?</span> <span m='130540'>It's largely</span> <span m='131037'>online,</span> <span m='131534'>a lot of</span> <span m='132031'>it needs to</span> <span m='132528'>have enough</span> <span m='133025'>impact, so that</span> <span m='133522'>it can be</span> <span m='134019'>interpreted</span> <span m='134516'>over someone's</span> <span m='135510'>smartphone.</span> <span m='137498'>And</span> <span m='138492'>also, there</span> <span m='138989'>are different</span> <span m='139486'>ways we can</span> <span m='139983'>do it.</span> <span m='140480'>It used to</span> <span m='140977'>typically be a</span> <span m='141474'>single photograph</span> <span m='141971'>per</span> <span m='142468'>assignment.</span> <span m='143462'>Now</span> <span m='143959'>what's called</span> <span m='144456'>a</span> <span m='144953'>photo story</span> <span m='146444'>has become</span> <span m='146941'>far more</span> <span m='147438'>common.</span> <span m='148432'>There are</span> <span m='148929'>programs like</span> <span m='149426'>Slideshow</span> <span m='150917'>that</span> <span m='151911'>will help</span> <span m='152408'>you put up</span> <span m='152905'>15 or</span> <span m='153402'>20</span> <span m='153899'>stories, along</span> <span m='154396'>with an</span> <span m='154893'>interview.</span> </p><p><span m='155390'>I'm sorry, 15</span> <span m='155887'>or 20 still</span> <span m='156384'>photos,</span> <span m='156881'>along</span> <span m='157378'>with an</span> <span m='157875'>interview</span> <span m='158869'>to help</span> <span m='159366'>explain something.</span> <span m='160370'>And then on</span> <span m='160810'>top of that,</span> <span m='161300'>if you</span> <span m='161790'>want, there's</span> <span m='162000'>live action</span> <span m='162260'>video.</span> <span m='162754'>And</span> <span m='163742'>photographers</span> <span m='164236'>are being</span> <span m='164730'>asked</span> <span m='165224'>to do</span> <span m='165718'>all of</span> <span m='166212'>those things</span> <span m='166706'>in</span> <span m='167200'>most of</span> <span m='167694'>their</span> <span m='168188'>assignments</span> <span m='168682'>now.</span> <span m='169180'>So</span> <span m='169660'>the demand</span> <span m='169770'>for work</span> <span m='170030'>is a</span> <span m='170516'>lot</span> <span m='171002'>higher</span> <span m='171488'>from</span> <span m='171974'>the</span> <span m='172460'>photographer,</span> <span m='173432'>but</span> <span m='174404'>you</span> <span m='174890'>were</span> <span m='175376'>never sent</span> <span m='175862'>into the darkroom</span> <span m='176348'>to work the</span> <span m='176834'>last three</span> <span m='177320'>hours of</span> <span m='177806'>your shift.</span> <span m='178778'>It's</span> <span m='179264'>a lot</span> <span m='179750'>easier.</span> </p><p><span m='180236'>They</span> <span m='180722'>spread the</span> <span m='181208'>workload in</span> <span m='181694'>different ways.</span> <span m='182180'>So</span> <span m='183152'>you</span> <span m='183650'>spend</span> <span m='183870'>more</span> <span m='184160'>time in the</span> <span m='184450'>field, which</span> <span m='184946'>is nice,</span> <span m='185442'>but</span> <span m='185938'>also, you</span> <span m='186434'>go through that</span> <span m='186930'>difficulty of</span> <span m='187426'>changing</span> <span m='187922'>gears</span> <span m='188914'>from one</span> <span m='189410'>assignment</span> <span m='189906'>to the next.</span> <span m='190898'>And that</span> <span m='191394'>can</span> <span m='191890'>be</span> <span m='192882'>challenging.</span> </p><p><span m='193874'>And</span> <span m='194370'>going</span> <span m='194866'>from</span> <span m='196850'>a</span> <span m='197346'>project where</span> <span m='197842'>you just</span> <span m='198338'>photograph</span> <span m='198834'>somebody</span> <span m='199330'>who</span> <span m='199826'>had</span> <span m='200322'>a loved one</span> <span m='200818'>die of</span> <span m='201314'>cancer,</span> <span m='201810'>and talk</span> <span m='202306'>with them</span> <span m='202802'>for a half</span> <span m='203298'>hour or</span> <span m='203794'>hour,</span> <span m='204290'>photographing</span> <span m='204786'>them, and</span> <span m='205310'>going</span> <span m='205620'>from</span> <span m='205930'>that to</span> <span m='206340'>something</span> <span m='206730'>where</span> <span m='207420'>it's</span> <span m='207900'>a</span> <span m='208160'>children's</span> <span m='208330'>party,</span> <span m='208804'>and</span> <span m='209278'>they're</span> <span m='209752'>celebrating</span> <span m='210700'>opening</span> <span m='211174'>a new</span> <span m='211648'>wing at a</span> <span m='212122'>library.</span> <span m='213544'>It's</span> <span m='214020'>kind of</span> <span m='214325'>hard to</span> <span m='214630'>go from</span> <span m='214930'>A to B,</span> <span m='215230'>and that's</span> <span m='215530'>something</span> <span m='215830'>you</span> <span m='216130'>do</span> <span m='217330'>virtually</span> <span m='217630'>every</span> <span m='217930'>day</span> <span m='218230'>as a</span> <span m='218530'>journalist.</span> </p>","file":{"id":290692,"video_id":"2705079599001","name":"1151-PhotoJournalist2","duration":219917,"thumbnail_url":null}});