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METAL WORKER: Take Business Classes

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Phil talks to us about owning a small business in metal fabrication. He shares what a typical day looks like for him in his shop and shares his career path from college art major to business owner. He goes into detail on how he got his first 'manufacturing' job and shares his philosophy on how to stay in business even in lean times. He also advises art majors what other types of classes they need to take in order to be manage their artistic careers.

Degree: Art
Job Title: Owner
Employer: 522 Industries

Job Summary: Assemblers and Fabricators, All Other

Job Description

Assemblers and fabricators assemble both finished products and the parts that go into them. They use tools, machines, and their hands to make engines, computers, aircraft, toys, electronic devices, and more.

On-the-Job Training

Moderate-term on-the-job training

Certification Requirement
Recommended by the Fabricators & Manufacturers Association International (FMA).

Quick Facts

Average salary
Average salary
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$20,000 - $50,000
Projected job growth
Projected Job Growth
0 to 10 percent
Typical schedule
Typical schedule
Full-time, Irregular
Typical workplace
Typical workplace
Remote, Outdoor, Indoor, Hospital / Clinic, Military, Home
Personal qualities
Personal Qualities
Detail oriented, Verbal communication skills, Technical skills, Strength/stamina, Mathematical skills, Hand-eye coordination, Likes working with hands

Educational Path

Education requirement
Education Requirement
High school degree
Associate degree
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<span m='16379'>the</span> <span m='16490'>shop,</span> <span m='17250'>making</span> <span m='17570'>sure</span> <span m='17800'>that</span> <span m='17900'>everything</span> <span m='18270'>gets</span> <span m='18610'>done</span> <span m='19220'>properly,</span> <span m='19720'>and</span> <span m='19830'>that</span> <span m='19980'>everybody's</span> <span m='20490'>doing</span> <span m='20690'>what</span> <span m='20820'>they're</span> <span m='20940'>supposed to</span> <span m='21260'>be</span> <span m='21330'>doing.</span> </p><p><span m='22100'>I</span> <span m='22510'>was</span> <span m='22820'>going</span> <span m='23060'>to</span> <span m='23130'>college.</span> <span m='23530'>And</span> <span m='25560'>I</span> <span m='25620'>wanted</span> <span m='25860'>to</span> <span m='25920'>get</span> <span m='26060'>into</span> <span m='26240'>medicine</span> <span m='27000'>and</span> <span m='27720'>taking</span> <span m='28060'>chemistry</span> <span m='28480'>classes.</span> <span m='29470'>And</span> <span m='29660'>one</span> <span m='29920'>time,</span> <span m='30840'>I</span> <span m='30970'>took</span> <span m='31820'>an</span> <span m='31920'>art</span> <span m='32159'>class,</span> <span m='32780'>a</span> <span m='32880'>drawing</span> <span m='33180'>class.</span> <span m='33690'>And</span> <span m='33950'>I</span> <span m='34050'>asked the</span> <span m='34410'>professor</span> <span m='36310'>if</span> <span m='36430'>you</span> <span m='36510'>could</span> <span m='36650'>make</span> <span m='36810'>a</span> <span m='36850'>living</span> <span m='37100'>doing</span> <span m='37350'>this.</span> <span m='37820'>And</span> <span m='37970'>he</span> <span m='38070'>lied to</span> <span m='38370'>me</span> <span m='38470'>and</span> <span m='38580'>said</span> <span m='38800'>yes.</span> </p><p><span m='40590'>And</span> <span m='41940'>I</span> <span m='42210'>started</span> <span m='42660'>doing</span> <span m='42930'>art.</span> <span m='43380'>And</span> <span m='43540'>I</span> <span m='43620'>studied</span> <span m='44010'>fine</span> <span m='44270'>art.</span> <span m='44510'>I</span> <span m='44610'>got</span> <span m='44780'>my</span> <span m='44900'>bachelor's</span> <span m='45430'>in</span> <span m='45940'>fine</span> <span m='46170'>arts</span> <span m='46440'>with</span> <span m='46600'>an</span> <span m='46690'>emphasis</span> <span m='47130'>in</span> <span m='47230'>sculpture.</span> <span m='48360'>And</span> <span m='49370'>I</span> <span m='49460'>had</span> <span m='49700'>a</span> <span m='49730'>studio</span> <span m='51840'>in</span> <span m='52090'>Lower</span> <span m='52420'>Haight</span> <span m='52750'>in</span> <span m='52860'>San</span> <span m='53050'>Francisco.</span> </p><p><span m='53940'>And</span> <span m='54090'>one</span> <span m='54240'>of</span> <span m='54330'>the</span> <span m='54410'>store</span> <span m='54750'>owners</span> <span m='55060'>said,</span> <span m='55760'>hey,</span> <span m='56020'>can</span> <span m='56220'>you</span> <span m='56360'>build</span> <span m='56640'>this</span> <span m='56830'>for us?</span> <span m='57140'>And</span> <span m='57240'>we</span> <span m='57330'>said,</span> <span m='57530'>of</span> <span m='57650'>course.</span> <span m='58130'>And</span> <span m='58410'>then</span> <span m='58770'>the</span> <span m='58980'>next</span> <span m='59330'>store</span> <span m='59620'>owner</span> <span m='59780'>said,</span> <span m='60350'>can</span> <span m='60550'>you</span> <span m='60630'>build</span> <span m='60830'>this</span> <span m='61010'>for</span> <span m='61210'>us?</span> <span m='61360'>And</span> <span m='61700'>we</span> <span m='61720'>said,</span> <span m='62410'>yes.</span> <span m='63040'>And</span> <span m='63850'>it</span> <span m='64050'>basically</span> <span m='64510'>just</span> <span m='64709'>kind</span> <span m='64890'>of</span> <span m='65220'>bloomed</span> <span m='65530'>from</span> <span m='65760'>there,</span> <span m='66410'>and</span> <span m='67650'>there's</span> <span m='67910'>been</span> <span m='68010'>no</span> <span m='68250'>stopping</span> <span m='68540'>it.</span> </p><p><span m='68900'>So</span> <span m='69170'>the</span> <span m='69250'>first</span> <span m='69540'>one</span> <span m='69760'>was</span> <span m='70290'>a</span> <span m='70585'>sign</span> <span m='70880'>for a store</span> <span m='71340'>called</span> <span m='71790'>Bulletproof that</span> <span m='72100'>was</span> <span m='72380'>on</span> <span m='72970'>Haight</span> <span m='73280'>and</span> <span m='73665'>Steiner.</span> <span m='74050'>They</span> <span m='74240'>did</span> <span m='75710'>clothing,</span> <span m='76510'>street</span> <span m='76920'>wear.</span> <span m='77650'>And</span> <span m='77730'>the</span> <span m='77840'>next</span> <span m='78160'>one</span> <span m='78320'>was</span> <span m='78590'>Gates</span> <span m='78920'>Sports</span> <span m='79190'>Store</span> <span m='79460'>from there.</span> <span m='80180'>And then</span> <span m='80400'>we</span> <span m='80570'>started</span> <span m='80970'>doing</span> <span m='81670'>store</span> <span m='82155'>interiors</span> <span m='83050'>and</span> <span m='84170'>clothing</span> <span m='84480'>racks.</span> </p><p><span m='85120'>If</span> <span m='85440'>you</span> <span m='85560'>can</span> <span m='85700'>build</span> <span m='86020'>something</span> <span m='86390'>where</span> <span m='86520'>you</span> <span m='86610'>have</span> <span m='86760'>a</span> <span m='86810'>product,</span> <span m='89090'>it's</span> <span m='89270'>great.</span> <span m='89770'>Because</span> <span m='90100'>then,</span> <span m='90570'>even</span> <span m='90830'>in</span> <span m='90940'>the</span> <span m='91010'>slow</span> <span m='91280'>times,</span> <span m='91600'>you're</span> <span m='91720'>building</span> <span m='92140'>one</span> <span m='92380'>thing.</span> <span m='92740'>And</span> <span m='94250'>you</span> <span m='94460'>can</span> <span m='94600'>always</span> <span m='94780'>have</span> <span m='94920'>something</span> <span m='95600'>being</span> <span m='96120'>built.</span> <span m='96930'>So</span> <span m='97100'>you</span> <span m='97180'>can</span> <span m='97300'>have</span> <span m='97460'>products</span> <span m='97880'>to</span> <span m='97940'>sell</span> <span m='98150'>later</span> <span m='98400'>on.</span> </p><p><span m='98780'>Right</span> <span m='98920'>now</span> <span m='99080'>we</span> <span m='99170'>do</span> <span m='99300'>custom</span> <span m='99690'>fabrication.</span> <span m='102650'>And</span> <span m='102810'>we're</span> <span m='102930'>starting</span> <span m='103690'>a</span> <span m='103820'>new</span> <span m='103950'>product</span> <span m='104350'>line.</span> <span m='104800'>And</span> <span m='104900'>that's</span> <span m='105100'>great.</span> </p><p><span m='105300'>Because</span> <span m='105540'>you</span> <span m='105620'>get</span> <span m='105740'>a</span> <span m='105790'>phone</span> <span m='106060'>call.</span> <span m='106310'>People</span> <span m='106670'>order</span> <span m='106900'>things</span> <span m='107240'>from</span> <span m='107410'>all</span> <span m='107570'>over</span> <span m='107700'>the</span> <span m='107800'>country,</span> <span m='108340'>all</span> <span m='108390'>over</span> <span m='108530'>the</span> <span m='108630'>world.</span> <span m='109430'>And</span> <span m='109530'>they'll</span> <span m='109700'>order--</span> <span m='110000'>we</span> <span m='110190'>make</span> <span m='110430'>handrail</span> <span m='110760'>brackets</span> <span m='111770'>that</span> <span m='112190'>we</span> <span m='112340'>design.</span> <span m='112970'>And</span> <span m='113390'>so</span> <span m='113710'>we're</span> <span m='114090'>getting</span> <span m='114590'>those</span> <span m='114920'>orders</span> <span m='115240'>all</span> <span m='115360'>the</span> <span m='115440'>time.</span> </p><p><span m='115720'>So</span> <span m='115880'>have</span> <span m='116050'>a</span> <span m='116110'>product.</span> <span m='117310'>The</span> <span m='117370'>other</span> <span m='118050'>advice</span> <span m='118930'>is</span> <span m='120290'>learn</span> <span m='120680'>business.</span> <span m='121650'>Even</span> <span m='122210'>if</span> <span m='122290'>you're</span> <span m='122460'>an</span> <span m='122550'>art</span> <span m='122720'>major,</span> <span m='123300'>always</span> <span m='123740'>learn</span> <span m='123980'>business.</span> </p><p><span m='124420'>And</span> <span m='124560'>always</span> <span m='124880'>take</span> <span m='125480'>a</span> <span m='125640'>business</span> <span m='126020'>class.</span> <span m='126840'>Or</span> <span m='128500'>learn</span> <span m='128729'>how</span> <span m='128840'>to</span> <span m='128930'>manage</span> <span m='129220'>your</span> <span m='129300'>money.</span> <span m='130830'>That's</span> <span m='131000'>most</span> <span m='131290'>important.</span> </p>","file":{"id":291787,"video_id":"2719928606001","name":"1214-Phil-p-MetalWorker","duration":132215,"thumbnail_url":null}});