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TEST LEAD - SOFTWARE: Overcoming The Gender Stigmas In Computer Science

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Lilia is a test lead at Microsoft, which means that she is responsible for a team of people who tests Microsoft's software to ensure that there are no bugs or major issues that could cause the software to crash. Lilia originally majored in civil engineering in university because she was told, and believed, that computer science was a male dominant industry that would be difficult for a woman to get a job in. She eventually decided to follow her true interests instead however and landed at Microsoft right after college.

Degree: Computer Science
Job Title: Test Lead
Employer: Microsoft

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m='14230'>the</span> <span m='14310'>software</span> <span m='15700'>don't</span> <span m='15950'>find</span> <span m='16210'>bugs,</span> <span m='18040'>don't</span> <span m='18200'>run</span> <span m='18340'>into</span> <span m='19240'>issues</span> <span m='19600'>where</span> <span m='19820'>the</span> <span m='19940'>software</span> <span m='20215'>would</span> <span m='20490'>crash.</span> </p><p><span m='21770'>And</span> <span m='22050'>that's</span> <span m='22380'>basically</span> <span m='23000'>my</span> <span m='23220'>job,</span> <span m='23510'>to</span> <span m='23590'>make</span> <span m='23680'>sure</span> <span m='23910'>that the</span> <span m='24310'>software was ship--</span> <span m='24770'>I work</span> <span m='25000'>for</span> <span m='25180'>Microsoft</span> <span m='25630'>Office.</span> <span m='26950'>So</span> <span m='27210'>I</span> <span m='27590'>need</span> <span m='27700'>to</span> <span m='27780'>make</span> <span m='27920'>sure</span> <span m='28210'>that</span> <span m='28540'>before</span> <span m='28790'>it goes</span> <span m='29070'>out the door</span> <span m='29350'>into</span> <span m='30060'>the</span> <span m='30270'>customers'</span> <span m='30720'>hands,</span> <span m='31320'>we</span> <span m='31780'>catch</span> <span m='32240'>all</span> <span m='32549'>the</span> <span m='32650'>issues</span> <span m='32920'>and</span> <span m='33190'>we</span> <span m='33280'>fix</span> <span m='33722'>them</span> <span m='34606'>And</span> <span m='35048'>it's a</span> <span m='35490'>sufficient</span> <span m='35820'>quality.</span> </p><p><span m='36820'>So</span> <span m='36920'>I</span> <span m='37020'>have--</span> <span m='37305'>because</span> <span m='37590'>I am</span> <span m='37650'>a lead,</span> <span m='37910'>so I</span> <span m='38200'>actually</span> <span m='38490'>have</span> <span m='38660'>a</span> <span m='38730'>team</span> <span m='38940'>of</span> <span m='39020'>people</span> <span m='39460'>also.</span> <span m='39780'>So I</span> <span m='39980'>have</span> <span m='40140'>four</span> <span m='40340'>people</span> <span m='42040'>that</span> <span m='42310'>I</span> <span m='43010'>lead</span> <span m='44570'>in this</span> <span m='45040'>effort.</span> </p><p><span m='46450'>So</span> <span m='46730'>the</span> <span m='46840'>way</span> <span m='47210'>I</span> <span m='47330'>started</span> <span m='47680'>at Microsoft</span> <span m='48070'>was</span> <span m='48390'>because</span> <span m='48755'>I studied</span> <span m='49190'>computer</span> <span m='49490'>science</span> <span m='50130'>in</span> <span m='50300'>college,</span> <span m='51520'>and</span> <span m='51690'>Microsoft</span> <span m='52510'>recruited</span> <span m='54172'>at</span> <span m='54510'>my</span> <span m='54630'>school.</span> <span m='55860'>So</span> <span m='56100'>I</span> <span m='56230'>ended</span> <span m='56430'>up</span> <span m='56550'>getting</span> <span m='56790'>the</span> <span m='56880'>job</span> <span m='57110'>right</span> <span m='57270'>after</span> <span m='57520'>school.</span> <span m='58490'>I</span> <span m='58600'>knew--</span> <span m='58830'>I</span> <span m='58950'>always</span> <span m='59270'>knew</span> <span m='59390'>that</span> <span m='59590'>I wanted to</span> <span m='59840'>work</span> <span m='60160'>in</span> <span m='60300'>software</span> <span m='60595'>and in</span> <span m='60890'>computers.</span> <span m='62300'>And</span> <span m='62910'>of</span> <span m='63040'>course,</span> <span m='63910'>learning</span> <span m='64200'>computer</span> <span m='64459'>science,</span> <span m='64870'>they</span> <span m='64989'>taught me</span> <span m='65400'>a</span> <span m='65450'>lot</span> <span m='65580'>of</span> <span m='65770'>the</span> <span m='65930'>basic</span> <span m='66650'>coding</span> <span m='66990'>skills</span> <span m='67330'>and</span> <span m='67670'>basic</span> <span m='68740'>computer</span> <span m='69020'>programming</span> <span m='70160'>fundamentals.</span> </p><p><span m='71100'>And then</span> <span m='71600'>at</span> <span m='72070'>Microsoft,</span> <span m='73130'>we</span> <span m='73510'>look</span> <span m='73720'>for people</span> <span m='74900'>who are</span> <span m='75080'>proficient</span> <span m='75500'>with</span> <span m='76170'>computing</span> <span m='76620'>and</span> <span m='76700'>then</span> <span m='76840'>also</span> <span m='77240'>look for</span> <span m='77640'>people--</span> <span m='78840'>people</span> <span m='79140'>with different</span> <span m='79480'>backgrounds</span> <span m='79970'>are</span> <span m='80060'>actually</span> <span m='80710'>really</span> <span m='80890'>interesting</span> <span m='81910'>for</span> <span m='82010'>Microsoft</span> <span m='82660'>because</span> <span m='83150'>we build</span> <span m='83320'>software</span> <span m='83850'>and</span> <span m='84080'>all kinds</span> <span m='84410'>of people</span> <span m='84750'>use it.</span> <span m='85986'>So we</span> <span m='86400'>want</span> <span m='86500'>to</span> <span m='86540'>make</span> <span m='86670'>sure</span> <span m='86810'>that</span> <span m='87040'>people who</span> <span m='87200'>build</span> <span m='87550'>software</span> <span m='87825'>are</span> <span m='88100'>also</span> <span m='88385'>kind of</span> <span m='88670'>representative</span> <span m='89010'>of</span> <span m='89510'>our</span> <span m='90010'>customers.</span> </p><p><span m='91510'>What</span> <span m='92010'>I</span> <span m='92100'>wish</span> <span m='92570'>I</span> <span m='92660'>knew</span> <span m='92970'>when I was</span> <span m='93285'>younger</span> <span m='93600'>is</span> <span m='94020'>to just</span> <span m='94310'>kind</span> <span m='94450'>of</span> <span m='94530'>follow</span> <span m='94970'>whatever</span> <span m='95350'>you</span> <span m='95510'>want</span> <span m='95670'>to</span> <span m='96150'>do</span> <span m='96500'>and</span> <span m='97160'>not</span> <span m='97390'>be</span> <span m='97580'>afraid.</span> <span m='98900'>Sometimes</span> <span m='100060'>I think</span> <span m='100310'>when</span> <span m='100470'>I</span> <span m='100560'>was</span> <span m='100910'>in</span> <span m='101590'>high</span> <span m='101770'>school,</span> <span m='102940'>people</span> <span m='103420'>would</span> <span m='103570'>think--</span> <span m='104130'>people</span> <span m='104470'>would</span> <span m='104610'>say,</span> <span m='104750'>well,</span> <span m='106150'>girls</span> <span m='106450'>don't</span> <span m='106660'>do computer</span> <span m='107020'>science.</span> <span m='107380'>It's</span> <span m='107530'>usually</span> <span m='107970'>guys'</span> <span m='108400'>jobs.</span> <span m='108790'>So</span> <span m='109030'>why</span> <span m='109210'>would</span> <span m='109360'>you</span> <span m='109430'>want</span> <span m='109620'>to go study that?</span> <span m='110005'>You'll never</span> <span m='110510'>get</span> <span m='110650'>a</span> <span m='110680'>job.</span> <span m='110940'>You'll</span> <span m='111200'>never get hired.</span> </p><p><span m='113030'>And</span> <span m='113910'>my</span> <span m='114180'>first</span> <span m='114590'>major,</span> <span m='114980'>actually,</span> <span m='115850'>I</span> <span m='116180'>majored</span> <span m='116530'>in</span> <span m='116840'>civil</span> <span m='117110'>engineering</span> <span m='117570'>and not</span> <span m='117780'>computer</span> <span m='117860'>science</span> <span m='118220'>at</span> <span m='118580'>first</span> <span m='118940'>because</span> <span m='119195'>of</span> <span m='119450'>that.</span> <span m='119690'>Because</span> <span m='119910'>I</span> <span m='119990'>was</span> <span m='120430'>worried</span> <span m='120870'>that</span> <span m='121040'>I</span> <span m='121430'>wouldn't be able to get</span> <span m='121630'>a job</span> <span m='122060'>as</span> <span m='122210'>a computer</span> <span m='122340'>scientist.</span> <span m='122740'>But then</span> <span m='122980'>I</span> <span m='123060'>switched</span> <span m='123400'>my</span> <span m='123500'>major</span> <span m='124286'>because</span> <span m='124662'>the</span> <span m='125040'>subjects were</span> <span m='125200'>just</span> <span m='125450'>more</span> <span m='125620'>interesting.</span> <span m='126250'>And</span> <span m='126770'>eventually,</span> <span m='127310'>I</span> <span m='127370'>got an</span> <span m='127640'>internship</span> <span m='128039'>where</span> <span m='128410'>I</span> <span m='128530'>realized</span> <span m='128990'>that,</span> <span m='129631'>no,</span> <span m='130033'>that's all</span> <span m='130840'>not</span> <span m='131070'>actually</span> <span m='131370'>true.</span> </p><p><span m='132910'>In the</span> <span m='133195'>industry, we</span> <span m='133480'>actually</span> <span m='133750'>love</span> <span m='134210'>hiring</span> <span m='134520'>people</span> <span m='135190'>who,</span> <span m='135540'>like</span> <span m='135890'>I</span> <span m='135930'>said</span> <span m='136300'>earlier,</span> <span m='136600'>represent</span> <span m='136980'>our</span> <span m='137110'>customers.</span> <span m='137380'>So</span> <span m='137650'>whether</span> <span m='137850'>it's</span> <span m='138717'>men</span> <span m='139144'>and women,</span> <span m='139571'>people from</span> <span m='140000'>different</span> <span m='140320'>countries,</span> <span m='140640'>and</span> <span m='140940'>people</span> <span m='141560'>with</span> <span m='142023'>different kinds</span> <span m='142486'>of backgrounds</span> <span m='143412'>from</span> <span m='143875'>different places</span> <span m='144338'>in the world.</span> <span m='145270'>And</span> <span m='146120'>that's been--</span> <span m='146395'>ever since</span> <span m='147070'>I</span> <span m='147150'>realized</span> <span m='147440'>that</span> <span m='148330'>I've just</span> <span m='148630'>been</span> <span m='148930'>enjoying</span> <span m='149230'>my field</span> <span m='149530'>so</span> <span m='149830'>much</span> <span m='150130'>and</span> <span m='150430'>enjoying</span> <span m='150730'>learning it</span> <span m='151030'>and</span> <span m='151330'>enjoying</span> <span m='151630'>coming</span> <span m='151930'>to work</span> <span m='152230'>every day.</span> </p>","file":{"id":255735,"video_id":"2701076709001","name":"69361095","duration":153983,"thumbnail_url":null}});